If you can get another vendor to sign the tax form, that is great, but I have not found any vendors willing to do this.

 

Here is an appraiser that I found that does this type of appraisal.  I know a couple families that have used him to value used power wheelchair that we still valued at over $5000 (the amount which you need an official appraiser.)  If the chair is still in good condition, he will do the appraisal over the phone with pictures.

 

Bernard M. Sencer, ASA, AAA, President

Sencer Appraisal Associates, Inc.

92 Reid Ave.

Port Washington, NY 11050

Tele: (516) 944-9456

Cell: (516) 729-7884

FAX: (516) 767-2112

Email: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

www.AllEquipmentAppraisal.com

 

 

Antoinette Verdone, MSBME, ATP

Assistive Technology Specialist

The ALS Association, Greater New York Chapter

NEW ADDRESS:

42 Broadway, Suite 1724

New York, NY 10004

 

Phone: 212-720-3054

Fax: 212-619-7409

Email: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx

www.als-ny.org

 

"One cannot consent to creep when one has the impulse to soar"  -- Helen Keller


From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wright, Amy
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:23 PM
To: 'xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [Assistive Technology] Who Appraises Donated AAC/AT Equipment?

 

Amy,

 

I’m glad you brought this up as I, too, have been struggling to come up with a good way to deal with the appraisal issue.  What we do now is send out a thank you letter that lists equipment donated with the following blurb – “Please keep this letter as an acknowledgement of your donation for tax purposes and confirmation that no goods or services were provided in exchange for your contribution”.  I have recently started to include info about how to figure fair market value.  See below - still needs tweaking - I am open to any/all suggestions! 

 

If folks call and ask for help with 3rd party estimates, we try to help by putting them in touch with another vendor who is willing/able to look at the equipment (usually power wheelchairs) and sign off as appraiser on IRS form 8283.  We’ve also put together an appraisal template letter for 3rd party vendors to complete if requested.  If possible, we inform folks of IRS appraisal requirements before they donate equipment as that is obviously more appropriate than having the appraisal done once the equipment is in our loaner closet. 

 

Here’s a link to IRS publication “Determine the Value of Donated Property”: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p561.pdf.  It’s a good resource. 

 

How to Figure Fair Market Value for Equipment Donations:

 

 

The Carolinas Neuromuscular/ALS-MDA Center does not provide individual tax advice, and nothing contained in this announcement should be construed as tax advice. As the recipient of your donation, we are very appreciative of your generosity however we are unable to estimate the fair market value of any items donated.  The following instructions are provided as a basic guideline:

 

1. If you are donating used equipment or supplies, claim the price that buyers of such used items actually pay in stores such as consignment or thrift stores or on websites such as craigslist or eBay.

 

2. Consult a website that lists values for similar makes and models if you are donating durable medical equipment such as power wheelchairs or communication devices. 

 

3. Keep an itemized receipt for the items, regardless of whether they are worth $25 or $250, to protect yourself in case you are ever audited.  This letter may serve as a receipt.  Keep in mind that under IRS guidelines, items must be in good used condition or better to be deductible.

 

4. Attach Internal Revenue Service Form 8283 to your return, giving the name and address of the recipient organization, a description of the property contributed, the date the property was acquired, how the property was acquired and its fair market value if the gift's value is over $500.

 

5. Get an independent (3rd party) qualified appraisal if the value exceeds $5,000.  

 

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact our center at (800) 924-7620

 

Many Thanks,

 

Carolinas Neuromuscular/ALS-MDA Center 

 

 

Amy Wright

Speech-Language Pathologist

Carolinas Neuromuscular/ALS-MDA Center

(704) 355-0867


From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Roman
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 23:52
To: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Assistive Technology] Who Appraises Donated AAC/AT Equipment?

 

Hi Pam,

Those are great ideas.  Thanks.

Sincerely,

Amy Roman, MS, CCC-SLP
Augmentative Communication Specialist

Forbes Norris ALS Research Center
2324 Sacramento Street
San Francisco, CA 94115
P (415)600-1263
F (415)673-5184



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From: pamela mathy <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Assistive Technology] Who Appraises Donated AAC/AT Equipment?
To: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 6:11 PM

Hi Amy,

 

I don't have an 'official' IRS answer--but a few ideas to research.

 

1. The equipment manufacturer is not an employee of the donee and could, in fact be considered a very uninterested appraiser. Certainly, the manufacturer would be in the best position to determine the "fair market value" of the device, and give you an appraisal, right?

 

2. Another thing that may be worthwhile is to have your agency invest in a consultation from a tax atty. These guys are trained to interpret the complicated tax law and it would probably be a good idea to get their opinion on any donation-tax write off/appraisal plan you develop. They are not cheap, but if you find a nice one, he or she may give you bargain price or do it probono.

 

3. Another idea is to find a nice appraiser in your area who will tell you how "fair market value" is determined" and would be willing to review the research that the family puts together using these instructions and stamp it appraised, for a smaller fee than if he had to do all of the research. My hunch is that the way "fair market value" is determined is similar to an appraisal on a house, compare it to comparables. I have heard that people try to sell AAC devices on Ebay, so this would be one source of "comps". Another would be state Assistive Tech Websites. So the family would prepare the paper trail with info on the cost of the same or a similar device and then the appraiser would review it, add a quick report, sign it and Viola! Cheap appraisal.

 

A final comment--it is good you are sharing the information about the tax laws regarding donations and who can appraise. I'll admit I have done them myself in the past using plan number 1 in ignorance of the law.

 

I hope some of these ideas are helpful.

 

Best,

Pam

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Amy Roman <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

On the IRS form for donated equipment is states that the appraiser can not be the donee or an employee of the donee.  That removes me from the short list for appraising the donations that come into our lending library since I work for the library.  Who do other  lending libraries use to do appraisals? 

 

Over the years I have learned that the perk of the tax donation is what actually motivates many people to donate AAC/AT equipment (hence the influx of donations accompanied by requests for donation receipts at tax time). 

 

I know that many centers just tell people that they are on their own for appraisals but we would really like to make it easier for people and in doing so receive more equipment donations.  Telling people they have to get equipment appraised on their own means they won't be able to find anyone and they lose interest in donating.  Thanks for your ideas.

 


Sincerely,

Amy Roman, MS, CCC-SLP
Augmentative Communication Specialist

Forbes Norris ALS Research Center
2324 Sacramento Street
San Francisco, CA 94115
P (415)600-1263
F (415)673-5184



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