Hi Deborah,
Is your patient going to an ALS Clinic?  I typically go to the respiratory therapists at the clinic to trouble shoot this problem with me.  From what I have learned nasal pillows alone are difficult for bulbar patients but the various models that use nasal pillows with some mouth coverage often do solve this problem.  If you still have glare even with these smaller masks, a light scarf over the plastic may help. 

Sincerely,

Amy Roman, MS, CCC-SLP
Augmentative Communication Specialist

Forbes Norris ALS Research Center
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San Francisco, CA 94115
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--- On Mon, 6/20/11, Charles Robinson <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Charles Robinson <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Bi-Pap Nasal Mask
To: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Deborah Bell" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 4:28 PM

Attached is a picture of a nasal pillow mask (vendor unknown) that worked well for my wife and allowed for great TV watching and routine letter board use. 
Bi-PAP was on 23.5/24 for 2 months with this mask and was tolerated far better than a full mask. 
There was never a problem with the mouth being open.
We even used it to travel 700 miles by van round trip over the mountains to a wedding.
I'm on a C-Pap at night with a different nasal mask and tolerate it very well. 
Full mask made me claustrophobic and cut my nose. (Note nose bridge bandaid in the attached photo, covering cut from the full mask.)
So I wonder what our PALS think of a full mask!!
-Charlie R.

ps. I do not know whether this photo attachment will go through the list-serv. If not, I can send directly on request.


On Jun 18, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Deborah Bell wrote:

Hello all,
I sure needed your expertise yesterday. I have a new patient on my caseload with ALS who is moving toward a trach in a couple of weeks. He is wearing his bi-pap 24/7 and cannot control head movement when he does not have it on due to respiration difficulty. He cannot use his hands, could use a switch with head movement but really is going to need eye gaze so we are moving toward that also. But I could not capture his gaze with the bi-pap. We could not get the device positioned on the rolling mount or holding it up over him so that the mask did not interfere. Any experience here? I have not yet had a patient with bipap on all the time.
 
Deborah Bell, MA/CCC
Licensed Speech Pathologist
Santa Cruz, CA
 
 


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