I would totally agree that a paid option designed to work for W8 would be superior. But the $100 price tag on all of them that I am aware of motivates me a little! :-) As a workaround: On W8, I would set it so that the PC boots to the Desktop environment. I would make sure that PNC is defaulting to left click and has auditory feedback on. I would practice inadvertently getting into the "Metro" tile interface so that I know how to get back out when I invariably get there by accident. I was regularly able to get into and out of it with a little practice; without depending on the toolbar. As part of my setup I would make sure that all of my regularly used programs had a shortcut within the desktop environment. As an aside, I saw a mention the other day that W10 may be losing the "charms"menu as well, so I hope that perhaps windows may be returning to a more mouse oriented environment... And to be clear, I do consider this a less than optimal workaround, but may be worth some consideration for the right kind of client. Regards, Ed Ed Hitchcock OT/L Technology Center Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago ________________________________________ From: xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com [xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com] on behalf of Amy Roman [xxxxxx@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 5:38 PM To: xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com Subject: RE: [no phi] RE: Free Dwell Software for Windows 8? Hi Edward, I had similar results and since I lost access to the mouse tool bar frequently I would say it was not an adequate Windows 8 option. If anyone wants to post the work arounds I would consider it but for now I am going to look at the paid for versions that are designed for Windows 8. Sincerely, Amy Roman, MS, CCC-SLP Augmentative Communication Specialist AmyandpALS.Com Pinterest.com/AmyandPALS Forbes Norris ALS Research and Treatment Center 2324 Sacramento Street San Francisco, CA 94115 Cell (415)518-0592 Fax (415)600-3778 -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 2/13/15, Edward Hitchcock <xxxxxx@ric.org> wrote: Subject: RE: [no phi] RE: Free Dwell Software for Windows 8? To: "'xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com'" <xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com> Date: Friday, February 13, 2015, 1:49 PM Just because the topic came up a few times... I did go ahead and try point n click on Windows 8.1. Starting in desktop mode, it seems to work just fine as it usually would in desktop. I actually cannot seem to invoke the "charms" menu. But if I have shortcuts preset up on my desktop that is not as necessary. If I move into the "Metro" interface, it actually continues to work but I do not have access to the actual toolbar so I do not think there is a way to pause it. If I leave it set for "default to left click" I maneuver around the metro interface including use of the search menu. I still hear it clicking if I have auditory feedback set up. So all in all it is not completely set up for Windows 8, but I would consider it to be a partially functional alternative. I spent about 20 minutes on it, so obviously am More than open to hearing further feedback on the topic. Ed Hitchcock OT/L Technology Center Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago 312-238-2997 xxxxxx@ric.org -----Original Message----- From: xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com [mailto:xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Edward Hitchcock Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 2:19 PM To: 'xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com' Subject: [no phi] RE: Free Dwell Software for Windows 8? I contacted PNC on the issue and they said the following. "We don't have a W8 system to test on but we have been told by users that PNC will work with W8 but not with the metro interface. In the classic interface it is supposed to have a problem with staying on top of the charm bar". I believe both of those issues have work arounds but I do not have access to an 8.1 system to test until Wed. (I will try if you would like me too). -----Original Message----- From: xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com [mailto:xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Amy Roman Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 2:01 PM To: xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com Subject: Re: Free Dwell Software for Windows 8? Hi Antoinette, I did download it but don't seem to be able to activate it on my Windows 8 device. Maybe I actually need to read the Point-N-Click manual. The company says they have not tried it themselves but hear it works. As long as you have had sucess with it I will keep trying. Sincerely, Amy Roman, MS, CCC-SLP Augmentative Communication Specialist AmyandpALS.Com Pinterest.com/AmyandPALS Forbes Norris ALS Research and Treatment Center 2324 Sacramento Street San Francisco, CA 94115 Cell (415)518-0592 Fax (415)600-3778 -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 2/9/15, Antoinette Verdone <xxxxxx@improveability.com> wrote: Subject: Re: Free Dwell Software for Windows 8? To: "xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com" <xxxxxx@alsa.simplelists.com> Date: Monday, February 9, 2015, 11:49 AM Point n click works on Windows 8 http://www.polital.com/pnc/ Sincerely, Antoinette Verdone, MSBME, ATPOwner, Rehabilitation EngineerImproveAbility, LLCOffice: 512-522-1705Cell: 512-497-6026Email: xxxxxx@improveability.comWeb: www.improveability.comFax: 888-501-1009Address: 7301 Burnet Rd, Suite 102-265, Austin, TX 78757 DARS Provider# 1-274278960-0-000 "One cannot consent to creep when one has the impulse to soar" -- Helen Keller On Feb 7, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Amy Roman <xxxxxx@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Hi Alisa and List,Is anyone aware of a free dwell software for Windows 8? If not, which "pay for" versions do people like? Further clarification: For users who need to be able to use dwell select with mouse or head tracker outside of the communication apps that have the dwell functionality built in. Thanks!!! 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