Coming from a vendor this is one reason when people contact us we stress the importance of having a team. This is something which sadly may be different from vendor to vendor but I know at PRC it is part of the policy. When we do not start with the team there then we do get stuck such as seen in this case. The only time I have seen someone obtain reimbursement after the device was purchased was in cases they could have done retroactive. This though requires the SLP to be part of the decision making process in the very beginning. They then can help because during the decision process there should have been a variety of different devices looked at and considered, which is necessary for any funding. I know the families just want to help their love on who has ALS, but sometimes they are in the panic and jump the gun before making sure all of the options were looked at. Terese Terese Phelps, M. Ed Regional Consultant Prentke Romich Company 1-800-262-1984 ext. 428 952-440-2041 office xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx www.prentrom.com -----Original Message----- From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jane Huggins Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:23 AM To: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Assistive Technology] aac funding question I doubt you have much of an option for getting reimbursement on the present system. I do notice that the My TObii has some rental/trial options. If that is how the family got it, then you might be able to go ahead with the evaluation and recommendation. However, Medicare might easily come back and say that the patient get a cheaper eyegaze system. I think this is somewhat underhanded by Tobii, since their brochure for the My Tobii system is absolutely plastered with statements that this is Medicare approved. They should either be advising people in the proper procedure or have a plan in place that doesn't violate that procedure. I also sympathize with the family. This is a very expensive system and getting funding can take a very long time when your loved one doesn't have a lot of time left and needs the device now. But, I think that is what a rental agreement would be for and the vendor should have recommended that so that proper procedure could be followed. On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Molly Doyle wrote: > We have had these types of requests in the past (not necessarily for > this product). I assume the PALS is using the equipment & its meeting > his needs. I empathize with the PALS and the family about wanting to > get reimbursed but our center does not evaluate a person for a specific > product particularly after that product has been received. We follow > the steps outlined by Lew. > > > Molly Doyle MS CCC > CART-Rancho Los Amigos National Rehabilitation Center > Downey CA 90242 > www.rancho.org/cart > > Please be advised that we cannot guarantee confidentiality of email communications. > > > >>>> Alisa Brownlee <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> 12/10/07 1:06 PM >>> > A question for the AAC specialists of the group.... > > We have a patient in NJ that paid out of pocket (and without an SLP evaluation) for a My Tobii System from a local vendor. Now, the family wants to apply to Medicare for partial reimbursement. (the 80% that Medicare would pay for this device) The vendor is now asking one of the SLP's that work with my Chapter to perform an AAC assessment based on this system then submit the claim to Medicare. Has anyone on this list had this type of request? Can a beneficiary request reimbursement for Medicare after the fact?? (the patient has had the device for a few months) > > I asked Lew Golinker for advice (he is an attorney with the AT Law Center) and he states the process of getting an eval, then script, then submission of device has not been followed. However, I am wondering if anyone else have faced this problem? I can't believe this is an isolated incident and I was curious if anyone has any input to this or a similar situation? (or has someone successfully done this type of "back ordering" before?) > > Thanks > Alisa > > > > > Alisa Brownlee, ATP > Assistive Technology Specialist > ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease) Association, Greater Philadelphia Chapter > > Assistive Technology Consultant, ALS Association, National Office > > Direct Phone Number: 215-631-1877 > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. 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