I don't think ist switch still exists.  The Infrared portion worked with my end stage ALS client with brown eyes.  Her Iris was able to reflect the beam when she looked at it.  It did not work with my blue eyes.  Maybe the SCATIR?

To be clear I am discussing eye movement. Not eyeblink which is how these are traditionally used.

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As far as I know, there are no eye activated alert systems.  I have been asking (okay pleading) for an engineering student or company to invent this type of product for years.  I do have a student engineer at Penn that is now interested in trying to develop a prototype of an eye activated device – he and I spoke for about an hour last week so I am keeping my fingers crossed!
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I have an ALS patient who is on a trach/vent with only facial cheek movement. He is able to use his Tobii device without difficulty, but I was hoping to get a back up system for an alarm.

Are there any alarms/alerts that a patient can access via eye gaze?

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Hi Jenna,

I have purchased a Fire HD8 for my loan closet and really only loan it for a basic "starter" text-to-speech as it does have numerous free/basic TTS app's available on the Amazon Store.  It's nice for those that want to use book reading on a tablet since it's easier access like to mount, page turning, and other easy book reading features.  But the Fire tablet is overall a bit weak on accessibility features and does not have switch capabilities.  I will say though, for someone WITH speech as their their means of controlling the environment, Fire Tablet HD10 (not 8) should be able to wake up while on sleep mode to access Alexa!!  HD10 wasn't out when I made my purchase and wish it was-so I didn't get to try it out yet but would like to see how functional it really can be with a voice.

I think it was mentioned, but Amazon Fire uses the Amazon Store to load Apps on the tablet-and not all apps that say it's compatible with "Google Play" will be offered on Amazon.  Predicable is not offered.  If the Amazon App store grows then we will start seeing something like "Get at Amazon Store" to click on.  Also, I may be wrong, but what I think I ran across this in the past, is that if the app was originally made for Google Play and the used on Amazon Tablet-little things like auto-rotating might not work on the Amazon Tablet.

As far as Predictable, I think that's a great choice! They also now have a Windows OS App that is compatible with eyetracking.  So can go from smartphone/tablet i-devices/Android devices to now Windows eyetracking (just missing the Amazon!).

Hope this helped!!

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On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Edward Hitchcock <xxxxxx@sralab.org<mailto:xxxxxx@sralab.org>> wrote:
As far as I know, fire tablets will only take apps that are on the Amazon App Store. A quick search of the Amazon App Store does not reveal predictable as an app, and none of the ones that I see on their jump out at me as being alternative access options. But I don't actually have time to do an in-depth search right now. I do think you are limited to what the Amazon App Store makes available unless you do some fairly serious modification that is beyond me.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dmobile-apps&field-keywords=augmentative+communication+aac

In any case, most ALS users may wish to consider head mouse and/or eye gaze access strategies before serious consideration of switch access. Most of the time we are then discussing heavier devices but we are also normally discussing wheelchair mounting etc. etc. given the usual progression that we see.

Android tablets will take USB head mouses and offer an option for dwell, but you have to figure out mounting etc. etc. in any case.

Since you can get a relatively inexpensive fire tablet, it may be worthwhile just to purchase one and see what it offers; but Amazon blocks you out from a fair number of the regular android options.

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If you are talking about mobile, Bulbar patients, then switch access may not be a big need?

I would also look at Proloquo4Text - it has great speed enhancements and it a great solution for text based communication.

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Predictable allows for switch scanning.  It’s the device itself that has to be switch compatible.  Switch access is built into the ipad and can be added to an Android but I don’t know if the Amazon Fire is switch accessible.

Does anyone know if the Fire has switch access capability?

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Thank you.  It is my understanding that Predictable does allow for switch scanning.  Is that not correct?

Jenna Gardner, MS, CCC-SLP
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What you need to take into consideration is whether the tablet can easily use switch input should the patient no longer be able to use the touch screen. The app should also allow for switch scanning. It would be hard to try to switch a patient to a completely different tablet and app when they can no longer use the touch screen.

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On May 2, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Jenna Gardner <xxxxxx@upstate.edu<mailto:xxxxxx@upstate.edu>> wrote:
Good afternoon,

Our ALS clinic recently received a grant to start a loan closet for low-tech and tablet-based communication devices to provide to our mobile bulbar patients that don't want to lug around a large/heavier dedicated device.  I have been doing a lot of research to "get the most bang for my buck"  and was hoping for some feedback/advise from the group.

I am looking to use the Predictable app, so I need to make sure I'm purchasing a tablet that is compatible.  I am more of an iPad gal myself, but know that I can get more tablets if I go with an android device.  Amazon has a great price for the Fire HD 8 tablet.  It looks like Predictable is compatible with this tablet, but I can't find it in writing.  I am waiting to hear back from Therapy Box to confirm, but figured I'd check here as well.  Has anyone used this combo?

Also, is anyone familiar with the Fire HD tablet?  I want to make sure I select a good tablet.  Is there a better tablet I should look into that is reasonably priced?

Thanks in advance.

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